Key Points
Hearing a creaky floor when you step out of the shower can be annoying. Unfortunately, it’s not easy to fix for various reasons, but foam sealant could be an option if it’s applied carefully.
- Shower pan creaking occurs because no mortar mix base was placed under the shower pan during installation to provide support and prevent noise.
- The pipes are tightly fit against the framing, causing expansion and contraction noises when hot or cold water runs through them and the pipes rub against the wood.
- Both problems are challenging to fix and would require significant demolition, so it may be better to live with the creaking sounds.
- The only possible solution would be to use expandable foam sealant if there is access to the underside of the shower pan to provide support, but it should be used with caution.
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LESLIE: Andy in Virginia, welcome to The Money Pit. What can we help you with today?
ANDY: Hi, guys. I was calling because a previous caller on another show – earlier show – asked about how to keep a showerbed from creaking if remodeling a bathroom.
TOM: Yes.
ANDY: My showerbed creaks. It’s a brand new townhouse – about two years old – and I, of course, don’t want to rip out the shower pan to fix the creaking. I was wondering how you go about fixing that and also, a second part of that question, now that I’ve had time to think about it, is sometimes the pipes tend to knock a little bit when it’s cold out and I’m running hot water through them from the shower and so forth from the master bathroom. They tend to creak and like just knock in the walls.
TOM: Well Andy, these – both these problems would have been so easy to fix when the townhouse was being built.
ANDY: Oh.
TOM: But now that it is built, they’re very difficult to fix, so I can explain both of them. First of all, the shower pan creaking is because they didn’t put a base under it. Typically, you’re going to mix up a mortar mix when you set a shower pan, especially a fiberglass shower pan, so that you have a real solid bottom to it and sort of squish the shower pan down into it so it’s very well supported. In terms of the pipes, what happens is the pipes are very tight to the framing and so, as you turn on hot or cold water you get this expansion and contraction. Very often it’s described as sounding like a leak but it really isn’t. It’s really just the pipe sort of rubbing across the wood. And fixing either of those requires demolition, which we wouldn’t recommend. So I would say just live with it.
ANDY: Really?
TOM: Yep.
LESLIE: Not the answer you were hoping for. (chuckling)
TOM: Yeah, I mean if you could get access under the shower pan, you know, I could give you a couple of tricks of the trade; like you could use expandable foam sealant.
LESLIE: To sort of suck it in there.
ANDY: I was actually going to ask you about that.
TOM: You could do that but you’d have to get access underneath and, you know, by the time you do that, if you poke or prod in the wrong place you’re going to end up drilling a hole right through that shower pan itself and then that would get ugly.
ANDY: Probably could access it from the other side of the wall in my hallway, so that’s actually not a bad idea for me.
TOM: Well, then give it a shot. But don’t overdo it on the foam sealant because the foam does expand and it can actually push up on the shower pan. So be very ginger about how much of that stuff you put in, OK?
ANDY: Great, I appreciate it. Thank you very much. I really enjoy your show.
TOM: You’re welcome, Andy. Thanks so much for calling us at 1-888-MONEY-PIT.
silver_eagle
Recommend that you use minimally expanding foam–like what is used around door and window frames