Hosts: Tom Kraeutler & Leslie Segrete
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TOM: Coast to coast and floorboards to shingles. This is The Money Pit Home Improvement Radio Show. I'm Tom Kraeutler.
LESLIE: And I'm Leslie Segrete.
TOM: And we are at the National Hardware Show in Orlando, Florida. It's 50 acres worth of the latest and greatest products out there for home improvement. Who's at the show with us? Lots - about 30, 40,000 of our closest personal friends. Retailers ...
LESLIE: (chuckling) And you know each and every one of them.
TOM: ... wholesalers. They're looking for the stuff that's going to end up on store shelves near you. And we are here to give you a bit of a sneak peek into what you might be seeing in your local hardware or home improvement center in the next few months.
LESLIE: That's right. And we're bringing you the best of the best right here from the show floor.
TOM: This hour, we're going to tell you about some great new products, including a new kind of outdoor cooker that combines smoking, steaming and charcoal grilling.
LESLIE: Which means eating. Delicious.
TOM: And the safety gear that you need before you take on those DIY projects and how to seal the cracks around your house to keep cool air inside during the hot summer months.
LESLIE: Ah, but first up we are going to talk about one of my favorite subjects - eating. (Tom laughs) I mean cooking. That's right, foodies have probably heard of Jamie and Bobby Deen, sons of southern cooking diva, Paula Deen. And they helped with their mom's fledgling sandwich business and watched it grow into just about everything; award-winning restaurants, cookbooks, TV shows. And now you guys have a TV show. They're sitting right next to me. That's why I said it.
TOM: That's right. The Food Network hit show, Road Tasted, takes the Deen brothers cross country looking for the best-kept secrets in cuisine. Welcome, Jamie and Bobby.
JAMIE: Welcome. Good morning. How y'all doing?
BOBBY: Thanks y'all. Thank you for having us.
LESLIE: Hey, you guys.
TOM: And we're really upset that you didn't cater the interview. (chuckling)
LESLIE: Let me tell you, I have watched their show, Road Tasted, and Jamie and Bobby go all across the country and they meet people and they learn secrets. And they showed me this lobster bisque which like rocked my house and I cook it all the time; it's so good.
BOBBY: Do you really?
JAMIE: But when we got to visit Maine, that's one of our favorite stops that we had. We'd never been up to Maine. And Portland reminded us of Savannah a good bit. And we met a guy who used his grandfather's cast iron skillet; you know, a pot. And he ...
LESLIE: Talk about seasoned.
JAMIE: Oh, listen ...
TOM: Oh, yeah.
JAMIE: ... butter ...
TOM: Multi-generational seasoned, huh?
JAMIE: ... and lobster is the base. And we pulled lobster right out of the bay and it was as good as you think it is.
JAMIE: It had, you know, three different types of milk and a little bit of crusty bread in it and it was on.
BOBBY: And that's the premise of the show is every place that we travel is we would get something - we would find something that was indigenous to that area.
JAMIE: (inaudible) flavors.
LESLIE: Which is good. And you guys are southern boys, so it's a lot of different flavors. As you travel the United States you're really finding different attributes that make up that region of cooking.
BOBBY: Mm-hmm. Yep.
JAMIE: That's true. Well, being from the south, we found - we were in California and we did Washington State and, you know, everywhere in between; in Texas. And there's things that are associated with different regions. But I think the south is really one of the only areas that has a branded, you know, food. It's black-eyed peas and cornbread, right. Yeah.
BOBBY: (overlapping voices) Southern food. You don't say western food or northern food.
JAMIE: I suppose southwestern but - but we've been there all our life, so to get out and see things and taste things all over the country and promote small businesses; you know, just like us and putting them on TV it's a shot in the arm for a small business. It helped us and it's such a positive project and Bobby and I get to do it together and we caught baseball games across the country ...
JAMIE: ... and we just had an awesome time.
TOM: I guess you guys get to see a lot of kitchens across the country, too.
BOBBY: We do indeed.
BOBBY: Some good and some bad. (laughter)
TOM: Well, let's talk - let's talk about that. You know, what really makes a good kitchen? What makes a kitchen that's really functional? Hmm. What do you guys like in kitchens.
BOBBY: Well, I like something - as far as functionality is concerned, I like the cooking piece to be right in the center and behind me a sink and a refrigerator where you can just sort of turn in a circle and work like that.
BOBBY: I have three sinks in my kitchen. I think that's great. And I use ...
LESLIE: Now ...
BOBBY: ... two dishwashers.
LESLIE: Two - geez.
BOBBY: Couple of fridges. Yeah. I have three refrigerators.
LESLIE: How big is your kitchen?
BOBBY: It's big. (laughter) And I'm single. (laughter)
LESLIE: (overlapping voices) I'm like, 'My sister's single,' so hey.
TOM: (overlapping voices) Is that an - is that an advertisement? Are you available?
BOBBY: (overlapping voices) Hey, it always is. It always is. (laughter) Oh, shut up. (laughter)
LESLIE: Now, with all the traveling you guys do across the country, what has been your favorite bite and favorite place? Or are they different? Are they separate?
BOBBY: Jamie, you go first.
JAMIE: Well, I - you can look at me and tell I'm a huge fan of all flavors. Boiled okra is the only thing I don't eat.
LESLIE: (overlapping voices) Meanwhile, they're both fit and gorgeous, so whatever.
TOM: (chuckling) Yeah.
JAMIE: Yeah, my brother's in shape. I am a shape. (laughter) I would be a circle. When we were in - when we were in Texas and we met a guy, Skeeter Miller, at the County Line and if you get a pork rib that has been on a rotisserie for 19 hours and he puts an orange glaze over it and a ice cold Lone Star.
LESLIE: I'm sorry, I'm drooling.
JAMIE: Yeah. It was great. We love the Texas flavors. You mentioned the lobster bisque that we had in Maine.
JAMIE: You know and really, where we were at affected the flavors. We were in Seattle at Pike's Place. We saw them throw in the fish and we did a fresh paella with clams and mussels and things right out of the bay there. So, it's so neat to put the flavor and then have it in the area.
JAMIE: You know, and all these things are available to be shipped to your house so you can experience Pike's Place Market in Leesburg, Georgia.
JAMIE: You know, you can order all these things and I didn't really have a favorite. It was - everything was so great.
TOM: Yeah, I bet in some cases it ...
LESLIE: (overlapping voices) Everything is your favorite. (chuckling)
TOM: ... takes longer to cook it than it does to ship it. You know?
JAMIE: Yeah. Yeah, all this stuff has to be overnighted.
JAMIE: You know what one of my favorite flavors was? We were in Key West and it was 212 degrees (Leslie laughs) and we got a frozen key lime pie on a stick dipped in chocolate.
TOM: Oh. (laughter)
JAMIE: And just - it was so hot and then to have that cool, frozen dessert. That was ...
TOM: Kind of closed the circle, huh? (chuckling)
JAMIE: That was great.
LESLIE: Now, you guys have a cookbook coming out. Is it sort of the best of the recipes ...
BOBBY: It's out now.
LESLIE: Ooh. Excellent.
BOBBY: It's called Deen Brothers Recipes from the Road. And everything in the book is inspired by our trips. So, Jamie mentioned Seattle. We had a paella in Seattle where what's - you know, what's indigenous to their waters is halibut and clams and mussels and things like that. And we just took recipes from different places, put a different spin on it and made it our own. For instance, that paella in southeastern Georgia, on the coast of Georgia, would be a [low-country] (ph) boil ...
BOBBY: ... where we use shrimp and blue crabs, (inaudible) crab ...
LESLIE: (overlapping voices) Crawfish.
JAMIE: Hot sausage.
BOBBY: Right. We don't have halibut cheeks in Savannah. But things like that. So, for instance, the Neeler (ph) family natural (ph) ...
TOM: So these are sort of recipes that are heroes locally but then if you're not from that part of the country, you may not have the opportunity to experience it.
BOBBY: Mm-hmm. Right.
JAMIE: Well, and that's ...
BOBBY: It's busted up into regions, too.
BOBBY: It's the south, it's the west, it's the northeast. And so, it's four different sections of the book and ...
TOM: It's a geographical cooking experience. Yeah.
BOBBY: And there's hundreds of photographs. So it's kind of like a diary of our summer together and it's just really neat behind-the-scenes pictures and great recipes.
JAMIE: And everything, for the most part, is pretty simple. I mean you don't - you don't find more than half a dozen ingredients in most of the recipes. You can find everything in your local grocery store. Pretty simple stuff to put together.
LESLIE: Wow, that's so great.
JAMIE: It's a great book and it's beautiful. We're very proud of the way it came out.
LESLIE: (overlapping voices) My goodness. I'm ...
TOM: Now, I guess you guys just got here. You haven't had a chance to walk the show floor? Have you seen any cool gadgets yet?
BOBBY: (overlapping voices) No, we just walked in. It's gigantic.
BOBBY: This is going to be expensive. (laughter)
TOM: Isn't it amazing? This is going to cost you, huh?
BOBBY: This is going to cost me a lot of money. (laughter)
LESLIE: Yes, indeed it will.
JAMIE: It's the largest building I've ever been in, I think.
TOM: Yeah, isn't it amazing?
LESLIE: Wait 'til you go across the street.
BOBBY: And I have - I have - I'm working on my house right now.
BOBBY: I've got several different things going on.
TOM: Well, what's going on at your house? What are you working on?
BOBBY: I'm putting in a gym and putting in floors and walls ...
TOM: Because you've got to stay - you've got to stay on top of all the eating you're doing, huh? (laughter)
LESLIE: (overlapping voices) Well ...
BOBBY: You know what? Yeah, we eat a lot so try to stay in shape. I enjoy exercising, so I'm putting a really nice gym in my house. Jamie's building a pool. He's adding on to his house. I mean ...
LESLIE: How much of the work are you guys doing on your own or is it really more direct-it-yourself?
BOBBY: I'm paying for every project. (laughter) So, I'm 100 percent involved in everything we're doing but, you know, as far as laying pavers and we're digging a pool. I'm putting a smokehouse out back. So, these are things that I couldn't do and our father can build a house from the ground up. And I can cook you a really good meal and that's about as close as those two entities meet. So, I'm having to source it out.
LESLIE: Hey, they're building, in just different kinds of ingredients.
BOBBY: Yep, exactly.
JAMIE: Exactly. Yep.
LESLIE: Well, wonderful. Next time I'm in Savannah I'm knocking on you guys' door to come and eat in your super-giant kitchen and then work out, apparently, all that butter I'm going to eat. (laughter)
TOM: Jamie and Bobby Deen, the authors of the Deen brothers' cookbook - Recipes from the Road. Available right now?
BOBBY: It is, yeah.
JAMIE: (overlapping voices) Mm-hmm. It's been out for about a month and makes a great Mother's Day gift.
TOM: (overlapping voices) Alright, well congratulations.
BOBBY: (overlapping voices) Thank you.
JAMIE: (overlapping voices) It's really super.
LESLIE: (overlapping voices) Excellent.
TOM: (overlapping voices) Next time you come back on our ...
JAMIE: (overlapping voices) Meredith is the publisher.
TOM: (overlapping voices) ... on our show, you've got to bring some food with you.
JAMIE: We'll bring some hoe cakes and cornbread. (Tom laughs)
LESLIE: (overlapping voices)Well, much success with the book guys and the show.
TOM: (overlapping voices) Good luck.
JAMIE: (overlapping voices) Thank y'all very much.
BOBBY: (overlapping voices) Thank you so much for having us.
JAMIE: (overlapping voices) Appreciate you having ...
LESLIE: This is The Money Pit Home Improvement Radio Show, coming to you live from the floor of the 2007 National Hardware Store in Orlando, Florida.
TOM: Up next, we can help you - we can't help you with the skeletons in your closet (Leslie laughs), but we can help you with an amazing new tool that will help you figure out what's behind your walls. We'll tell you all about it, next.
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TOM: This is The Money Pit Home Improvement Radio Show, coming to you from the floor of the National Hardware Show in Orlando, Florida. I'm Tom Kraeutler.
LESLIE: And I'm Leslie Segrete.
TOM: It's a very special edition because this place is huge. There's 50 acres worth of exhibitors here and we've been pounding the pavement to bring you the best of the best, including some very, very cool new tools.
LESLIE: Yeah, and this is great; especially in a home like mine which has plaster and lath walls. You know, it's really tough to find the studs and if you want to attach shelving, art work, mirrors, it could be a real pain in the bottom. But there's a new tool that is perfect for this problem and there - and lots of problems like finding metal studs, copper and steel piping, metal conduit. You name it, if it's metal it can find it. It's the MetalliScanner from Zircon and here to talk about it is the company's marketing manager, Christina a Quistapace (sp)?
CHRISTINA (sp): Quistapace or Quistapace.
TOM: Ooh, alright.
CHRISTINA (sp): Very good.
TOM: There you go.
LESLIE: Quistapace. One Italian to another.
TOM: Hey, Christina (sp).
CHRISTINA (sp): Hi.
TOM: So now, Zircon has been a leader in the stud finder industry forever. I mean it's just amazing ...
CHRISTINA (sp): (overlapping voices) Forever. We invented it. We invented - you know, we brought the first stud sensor to market back in the early 80s and we've been improving on it ever since.
TOM: The one thing ...
LESLIE: And before that it was the knocking test.
CHRISTINA (sp): Or the magnet. (Leslie chuckles)
TOM: That's right, that's right. You know, one of the real challenges when you're trying to find a stud in the wall is that, you know, the stud finder's work reliably when you're dealing with drywall. But when it comes to a plaster and lath wall - or combination. I know in my house I have drywall on top of a plaster and lath wall. It's very, very difficult because it's so dense to get through that space and really be able to accurately figure out the studs. And because of that, you end up doing a lot of damage to the wall.
CHRISTINA (sp): Absolutely.
TOM: And so now you've got a new tool that really solves that and it's called the MetalliScanner. So talk to us about it.
CHRISTINA (sp): Yeah, the MetalliScanner M40 is unique in that it can do lots of different things. You know, it's priced well within the reach of the DIY-er. You know, we're not talking a tool that's 200 or 300 bucks.
LESLIE: Priced, well, under 50 bucks.
CHRISTINA (sp): Under 50 bucks.
CHRISTINA (sp): Right around 40, actually. And it solves the problem of helping you locate the studs in lath and plaster and, as Leslie mentioned, it's - you know, all the great things that are made from metal that are behind your walls that you don't -
CHRISTINA (sp): - not everybody necessarily thinks about.
LESLIE: Well, and it's interesting because, you know, with the popularity of home improvement shows and home improvement radio programming like Tom and myself, you get more and more people who want to tackle these projects on their own and if they just start cutting into walls, it could be a pretty hazardous condition.
CHRISTINA (sp): Yeah, it could be very, very dangerous. I mean you've got electrical back there. You've got, you know, your plumbing pipes back there. And just because you're working in your living room ...
CHRISTINA (sp): ... doesn't necessarily mean there aren't those things in your walls if it backs up to your kitchen or your bathroom.
TOM: And also, if you own a house that has a slab, there's a lot of utilities in the slab.
TOM: And that's hydronic heat. I would say hydronic is heat. Heat is great until it leaks.
TOM: You know, which eventually is going to happen. And then - but if you're doing work - like for example, if you were treating for termites or something like that ...
TOM: ... you have to find those pipes first so you know where they are. This is a tool that really has a lot of flexibility of finding the metal in concrete, for example.
CHRISTINA (sp): Yeah, it finds the metal in concrete. It'll find it, you know, like we were talking about; behind your walls ...
TOM: Mm-hmm. What about pinpointing like nails exactly or something like that?
CHRISTINA (sp): It will pinpoint on small pieces of any metal; nails, staples, anything you can think of and - that are in your walls. They could be in some reclaimed lumber that you might be using for ...
LESLIE: Which is interesting.
CHRISTINA (sp): ... you know, a table project or something like that.
LESLIE: We do a lot - on Trading Spaces, one of our carpenters, (Faber), will constantly sort of troll railroad ties or lumber yard or junkyards and pick up these amazing pieces of lumber. And sometimes, you don't know what's in it and you cut into it and now you've ruined your blade; you've ruined your tool.
CHRISTINA (sp): Yeah, you could ruin, you know, expensive saw blades, expensive planer blades; you know, things like that. And that - you know, obviously that adds up and that's a heck of a lot - you know, more money out of your pocket than having a tool that can find that stuff for you.
TOM: Now this tool actually has two positions. It has one that's designed for pinpoint accuracy and one that gives you sort of a wide scan.
CHRISTINA (sp): Mm-hmm. Yeah. And so what we generally like to say is that you would do kind of a wide scan first and if ...
TOM: To kind of get the approximate area of where the pipe is?
CHRISTINA (sp): Mm-hmm. Because it ...
TOM: Or the stud.
CHRISTINA (sp): You know, obviously we're on the radio. They can't see it. But I mean using the wide scan area, it gives you a broad area, on the tool, to scan with and is going to find more metal. (beeping sound)
TOM: You can hear it. You can hear it.
CHRISTINA (sp): You can hear it. (Tom chuckles) And then if you just flip the tool over, you can pinpoint. So now you're actually only using the end of the tool, making the scanning area a lot smaller ...
CHRISTINA (sp): ... which makes the tool more sensitive ...
CHRISTINA (sp): ... so that you can find those smaller bits of metal.
LESLIE: Which answers the question about plaster and lath because now you can find your nail heads and then ...
CHRISTINA (sp): Mm-hmm.
LESLIE: ... turn the tool around or just switch to the way you're functioning it and follow that hole nail line ...
CHRISTINA (sp): Follow that row of nails.
LESLIE: ... so you know exactly ...
CHRISTINA (sp): You know where it is.
LESLIE: That's great.
CHRISTINA (sp): And you can also then determine if it's - you know, if it's giving you mixed readings on what would be a stud because it's kind of sensing no metal and metal over and over again, that's different than it would read for a pipe because a pipe is going to be on constantly.
TOM: Right. Right, exactly. And I think a metal scanner is something that is typically very, very expensive.
CHRISTINA (sp): Mm-hmm.
TOM: But this isn't. Under $50?
CHRISTINA (sp): Under $50.
CHRISTINA (sp): Mm-hmm.
TOM: So I mean really, to have the tools that will do everything in your house you would want to have a regular stud sensor ...
CHRISTINA (sp): Mm-hmm.
TOM: ... and a metal sensor.
CHRISTINA (sp): And a metal sensor. Definitely.
TOM: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Christina a Quistapace (sp) from Zircon. Thanks so much for stopping by The Money Pit ...
CHRISTINA (sp): Thank you. Thanks for having me.
TOM: ... and telling us about the MetalliScanner. And by the way, there's an article on the home page of MoneyPit.com right now that talks all about MetalliScanner.
CHRISTINA (sp): Great.
LESLIE: Excellent. Well thanks so much for joining us.
CHRISTINA (sp): Thank you.
LESLIE: Alright, our next guest is standing by. And you know, the next product is something every DIY-er absolutely must have. If you own a toolbox you need work gloves.
LESLIE: And Mechanix Wear is the leader in high-performance work gloves. They have a pair for every job; padded, lighter, cooler, better grip, even a specifically designed glove for a lady.
TOM: They have some great new safety gear out there and here to tell us all about it is Fred Castro, the national sales manager. Thanks for stopping by The Money Pit.
FRED: Great, thank you for having me.
TOM: So, a work glove, I think, is something that most consumers have a love/hate relationship with. We know that we should be wearing gloves to protect our hands ...
LESLIE: Now, I love them.
TOM: Well, but so many of them are just hard to use. I mean it's hard to feel the things that you need to feel when you have a pair of work gloves on; you know, for example, picking up nails if you're a carpenter working in the winter.
LESLIE: (overlapping voices) Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's - you've got to make sure that there's a good fit.
TOM: Right. And so it's interesting that we're really getting to the point now where you're designing a performance work glove; a work glove that really, really feels like an extension of your own hand.
FRED: Absolutely. That's where we've come in. We've taken gloves to the next level; kind of like an athletic sport shoe ...
FRED: ... where generally shoes weren't good to run in, we're taking it to the next level where you can actually use a glove, get the same level of protection. But you're going to get all the benefits of a high-performance tool. So that's where the high-dexterity gloves come into to play.
LESLIE: How important is it, Fred, to make sure that you're wearing the right glove for the right job?
FRED: You know what? It's actually really important, from a safety factor. If you're wearing gloves that are too baggy, too loose, you take a chance of them slipping; creating ...
LESLIE: Getting twisted up in drill bits and what not.
FRED: Getting twisted, getting blisters. You know? So they're very uncomfortable. But you'll find the more that the glove fits, the - if it fits you properly you're going to have a tendency more to wear it because it's comfortable in doing the task, it's much safer, you don't have the slack in the glove and it fits you - like the clich