Hosts: Tom Kraeutler and Leslie Segrete
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TOM: Coast to coast and floorboards to shingles, you are tuned to The Money Pit Home Improvement Radio Show. I'm Tom Kraeutler.
LESLIE: And I'm Leslie Segrete.
TOM: Welcome to a very special edition of The Money Pit. We are broadcasting live from the 2006 International Builders' Show in Orlando, Florida.
LESLIE: Yeah, it's very exciting. The second year in a row that they're in Orlando. Just announced they're coming back here next year for year number three. So that's excellent.
TOM: And we're here to go to school.
LESLIE: Really. We're here to go to school for you, the consumer, so you know what's going on here because you can't be here; it's just for the pros.
TOM: And a lot of pros are here. Over 100,000 home improvement contractors here and remodelers and building professionals.
LESLIE: (overlapping voices) Sixteen hundred booths and suppliers; it's huge.
TOM: Right. And you can't be here because they won't let you in the door. But they let us in, somehow. (laughing) So we're really here to learn about the new products and the new technologies that you're going to be seeing in the store shelves and in the homes that you're purchasing and you're fixing up and you're living in over the coming years.
LESLIE: Oh, not even just new technology. It's new building materials, new tools, new ways to get the jobs done. So it's really important that we're here so we can get you that secret information so you can get your contractor and say, 'Hey, I want these things.'
LESLIE: Yeah, and you know, if you're a regular listener to the show, we're always talking about weatherproofing, especially with the kind of weather we've had this past year; with the hurricanes and the flooding and all sorts of natural disasters.
TOM: Well, Grace Construction Products gracious support (laughing) has allowed us to broadcast here from their booth at the 2006 International Builders' Show. Now, Grace Construction is a company ... for 50 years, now, it's been making products that help keep your homes drier. They make fabulous products that keep the water where it should be - on the outside. Unless, of course, it's the plumbing system. (laughing) With us to talk about that is Larry Shapiro. Larry. Thanks for having us.
LARRY: It's great to be here. Thanks.
TOM: Yeah, well, we appreciate you hosting the show and ...
LESLIE: You didn't have a far commute.
LARRY: No. 'inaudible' (laughing)
TOM: That was why he did it; because he only had to walk across the booth to get to our table.
LARRY: Well, it's great to have you guys in our booth. Really is.
LESLIE: So we know you have great products to keep the water out of the roof but tell us about the wall system. What can we do to keep it out of there?
LARRY: Right. Well, you know, houses today have lots of beautiful windows, fancy shapes - lots of them - to let the light in ...
LESLIE: Gosh darn it, people love natural light.
LARRY: They do, as they should. But every opening in the building envelope is a potential area for water to get in when the wind blows or when the snow flies. And once water gets into that window system, it travels inside your walls; can do a lot of damage and a lot of damage even before you know you have a problem.
LESLIE: Yeah, it's like when you see it, it's really bad.
TOM: Exactly. And that's such an important point because it doesn't how good the window is, how good the door is or even how good the roofing shingle is.
TOM: It's how all that stuff goes together ...
LARRY: That's right.
TOM: ... that really keeps the water where it should be.
LARRY: Right. Anytime you have two different systems that meet up, that's where you have problems or the potential for problems; one of the danger zones we like to talk about. So windows meeting walls - that's a biggie.
TOM: Well, let's talk about some of the ways that you guys do that. You have some products that really address those critical areas. And I wanted to ask you, first, about Grace Vycor products.
LARRY: Yeah, Grace Vycor flashing is a fully-adhered membrane - what that means is it's got a sticky backing - and it, basically, goes in the rough opening before the window gets installed. Then you put the window in and then it goes over the nailing fin to really join the window to the exterior wall so water just can't get through. And then, once you put your sheeting on, you're going to bang all those nails through it. This product actually seals around those fasteners, building on technologies that we've employed in the roofing business, now, for the last 50 years.
LESLIE: That's really smart. I mean it works so work well and it's so successful in that application so why not apply it where you also have these vulnerabilities?
LARRY: Absolutely. Any place ... any place where water can get into the building envelope, that's what we do; we keep the water out.
TOM: You know, while we rely so much on gravity to try to keep water out of our buildings, the truth is that wind really just turns that gravity scenario completely upside down. Because you could have rain that is now horizontal or even driven up into the building.
TOM: And that's where it comes in; around those key points. Around the flashings and around the doors and the windows and the skylights.
LARRY: That's absolutely true. And so many of those systems - you know, shingles or siding - are designed to shed water; they're not, in themselves, waterproof. So when you get these danger zones, it's important to actually put waterproof systems, to join those two systems together - the window with the wall - so water can't get in.
LESLIE: And what are some of your other products that work in conjunction with the Vycor Plus?
LARRY: Well, we have a product to protect decks - it's also a membrane called Deck Protector - to protect your wood decks from rot and from corrosive effects of the new pressure treating chemicals that have been in place, now, for the last year. And what we also find is decks ... places where decks join the walls, that's also a place where water can get behind the ledger board and sit between the deck and the house and just sit there for long periods of time. And, once again, once you realize you have a problem, you have a big problem.
LESLIE: And it's such a simple ...
LESLIE: ... inexpensive addition to do, in the early stage, that will save you so much if you do have a problem.
LESLIE: How does this rate for the consumer, in cost?
LARRY: Oh, to protect a window, you're talking about something on the order of $10.
LARRY: If you have a problem with water in your wall systems, in the worst cases - the sensational cases with mold - I mean the house could be unlivable. So I mean for very, very small amounts of money you can buy this very cheap insurance against water infiltration into your house.
TOM: Well, let's talk about the main area that people are concerned about; water infiltration in the roof.
TOM: Some of your core products - the Grace Ice & Water Shield, for example.
TOM: A lot of people - surprising to some consumers, I think, when they hear this - use that in the south.
TOM: They really use it, not only on the front edge of the roof like we do in the north to protect against the ice damming; they use it across the entire surface of the roof.
LARRY: Absolutely. When water is ... when rain is driven by the wind, it - in the worst cases - blows the shingles off or blows the tiles off. Since Ice & Water Shield is, again, a fully-adhered product that actually sticks down to the roof, even though those shingles might fly off, the Ice & Water Shield stays in place and keeps the building dry. Much of the damage, when you get a big hurricane, is caused by roof leaks when the shingles blow off. Even if the shingles blow off, Ice & Water Shield stays there.
LESLIE: (overlapping voices) Because traditional felting is not going to keep that water out.
LARRY: No, not even close. This product was approved in Dade County, Florida, right after Hurricane Andrew and it's been used there ever since. And we had great experience with it after the Florida hurricanes of '04 and Katrina and Rita in '05; numerous instances of this product living through multiple hurricanes even after the shingles got blown off by the first one, so ...
LESLIE: Larry, are you finding that your contractors are recommending the product? Or is it more the consumer saying, 'Hey, I heard about this and I think I should have it'?
LARRY: It's both. Often times, roofing is ... roofing specifications are done by roofing professionals, roofing contractors. So those contractors that want to do a little better job, want to take a little bit better care of their customers, will use products like this. But you know, a savvy homeowner, an educated homeowner, is our best ally.
TOM: And one more thing I wanted to ask you; that was Tri-Flex. You know ...
LARRY: Yeah. This is a good category of product; synthetic roofing underlayment. Designed to replace felt on your roof.
TOM: Tar paper.
LARRY: Tar paper.
LARRY: It's a much higher performing, water shedding membrane than felt. It can be left exposed for six months. And it doesn't tear. So when wind might blow the felt off or might be damaged by traffic on the roof, the Tri-Flex really stands up beautifully. And, once again, in Hurricane Katrina and Rita-affected areas, the Tri-Flex stayed ...
LESLIE: You can really use both products.
TOM: Larry, thanks so much for stopping by The Money Pit. Larry, thanks for helping us keep that water where it belongs.
LARRY: It's my pleasure; it's been nice to be here.
LESLIE: Thank you.
TOM: This is The Money Pit Home Improvement Radio Show. We're broadcasting live from the 2006 International Builders' Show. So Leslie, you know, if you want to get clean and great-tasting drinking water, bottled water gets very, very expensive. (laughing) But adding a filter to your kitchen tap is a good way to avoid that expense.
LESLIE: Well, coming up, we're going to tell you about a great new product, from Moen, that let's you have filtered tap water or regular tap water right at your fingertips with no unsightly filtration systems above the counter. So stay with us.
TOM: We'll learn about that, right after this.
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ANNOUNCER: This portion of The Money Pit is being brought to you by Kenmore, makers of the Kenmore Elite Induction Cooktop which cooks food faster and more efficiently than gas or electric ranges. To learn more, visit your local Sears store or call 1-888-KENMORE. Now, here's Tom and Leslie.
TOM: Welcome back to this hour of The Money Pit Home Improvement Radio Show. I'm Tom Kraeutler.
LESLIE: And I'm Leslie Segrete.
TOM: Here at the 2006 International Builders' Show. This very special edition of The Money Pit is where we have come to learn about the new products, the new technologies that are available for consumers now and in the coming year. So, Leslie, what is the biggest turnoff you have when we talk about filtered tap water?
LESLIE: I like the word 'turnoff.'
LESLIE: Well, it's usually that big unsightly filter switch device that's sticking right out above your counter.
TOM: Exactly. Well, let's say you're a single guy and you invite a young lady to your house and she sees one of those big ugly filters sticking out of the faucet.
LESLIE: Oh, yeah, that won't seal the deal.
TOM: That won't seal the deal at all. (laughing) You want something that's more attractive, more stylish. And Moen actually has done just that. With us, to talk about that, is Tim McDonough; he's the Director of New Growth Markets for Moen. Hi, Tim.
LESLIE: Welcome. So ...
TOM: Say it again.
TIM: I said, 'Hi, how are you?'
TOM: It helps when I turn your mike on. (laughing)
TIM: Yeah, that'll help. (laughing)
LESLIE: It's our first day.
TOM: Yeah, yeah. Hey, so listen, tell me about this ChoiceFlo technology.
TIM: I'll tell you what. This is something that Moen has come out with this year and it's a first-to-market for Moen. What we do every year is we go into different rooms within the home and we talk to consumers about the biggest problems they face; whether it's in the kitchen, the bath, the shower - doesn't matter. This year we did some research in the kitchen and we found out that the biggest problem was that consumers wanted great tasting filtered water right at the kitchen sink. But they didn't want those unsightly ...
LESLIE: Well, because you want a stylish faucet. You know, you make beautiful products ...
LESLIE: ... so why not combine it all.
TIM: Exactly. So this year, what Moen has done is we have actually invented a faucet that has two spouts built into one spout. So you can't see the filtered water spout; it's built into it. But it gives you both filtered water and unfiltered water; which is great.
LESLIE: Which is great because you can get the pet's water right out of the faucet, you know?
LESLIE: And still give them filtered as well.
TIM: Absolutely. And that's a great point because this doesn't just flow ... it just doesn't have a little trickle of water ...
TIM: ... it actually flows a full gallon of water a minute.
TOM: That's a lot.
LESLIE: Can you also do hot water?
TIM: You can only do cold water. It filters the cold water side; not the hot water.
TOM: So how do you actually make the switch between tap water and filtered water?
TIM: Well, the faucet looks and operates just like a normal faucet. So the main center handle is the one that operates the unfiltered water. Down to the right, right on the escutcheon, is another little handle that you just turn ....
LESLIE: That's a fun word.
TIM: ... 'inaudible' filtered. (laughing)
LESLIE: Escutcheon. I like that.
TIM: It is a good word. And that's what operates the filtered water.
LESLIE: That is great. So, really, it just takes the convenience and puts it right there. Plus, we have one of those systems in our refrigerator, which is this huge thing; I always have to remember to fill it up. Did I change the filter? And it takes up so much space.
LESLIE: So to get it out of there and get it right where you need it is fantastic.
TIM: Exactly. And a lot of times, under the sink - although it's a crowded area, underneath that area - it's space that you could probably do a little better job of utilizing it a little bit better.
TOM: Yes, utilizing it. Yes.
TIM: So I'd rather use space down there than in my freezer.
TOM: Now, let's talk about the filter, actually, that's on this. It's a carbon block filter? What is that, exactly?
TIM: Absolutely. It's an activated carbon block; so it's a solid carbon block of filter which will take out a lot of impurities in the water. Everything from chlorine taste and odor to cysts to Lindane, Atrazines, VOCs; all sorts of things.
LESLIE: So it doesn't matter what type of water system your house is on; it'll work for you.
TIM: It'll work for you. It'll make great tasting filtered water right at your kitchen sink.
LESLIE: And how often do you need to address the filter situation?
TIM: That's a great point. This product actually has a built-in filter life indicator that's right on the handle itself. So every six months - about half a year - a little red light will blink just to indicate, 'Hey, it's time to change the filter.'
LESLIE: Great. (chuckles)
TOM: Oh, so it has like an idiot light on it, like your car. (laughing)
TIM: You got it. Exactly right. Exactly right.
TOM: Time to change the oil. (laughing)
TIM: And you just ... you would just open up the cabinet ....
TIM: ... and just - you don't even have to turn off the water.
TIM: Got a little check valve in it. You just ...
LESLIE: That's fantastic.
TIM: ... drop it down and you don't have to turn off the water.
TOM: Now, where are the faucets available?
TIM: The faucet's available through wholesale. So anyone of your big wholesalers; your Ferguson, 'McHughes.' Any one of those will carry it.
TOM: And how about ... the style itself I want to ask you about. You actually use one of your existing ...
TIM: You're exactly right. Yep.
TOM: ... styles to actually drop this in.
TIM: Yeah, Moen has a very popular line which is our flagship line called Chateau.
TIM: And that model is available everywhere. And so, what we've done is we've not only redesigned Chateau this year, made that more beautiful, but incorporated filtration into this model as well.
LESLIE: Will you expand this to some of your other more popular lines as well?
TIM: That's our ... coming up down the road, what we want to do is we've developed a technology to do this on just about any faucet.
TIM: So we can 'induce' it on anything we want.
LESLIE: Next up, filtered showers. (laughing)
TIM: That would be great. (laughing)
TOM: Tim McDonough with Moen. Thanks for stopping by The Money Pit.
TIM: Thank you. Appreciate it.
TOM: This is The Money Pit Home Improvement Radio Show. We're broadcasting from the 2006 International Builders' Show. And Leslie, we talk a lot about the health of your home; things like mold, pollutants and indoor air quality.
LESLIE: Yeah, you know, it's become a big issue, as we've learned just about how the air inside your home can affect your health. And it does in more ways than you know. Well, even your windows can reduce allergens in your home if they're the right windows.
TOM: Joining us to talk about that is Sherri Gillette with Pella. Hi, Sherri.
SHERRI: Good afternoon.
LESLIE: Hi there.
TOM: Thanks for stopping by The Money Pit. You've got some pretty ...
SHERRI: Thanks for having me.
TOM: ... unique window designs. Talk to us about how you can help keep those allergens out of the house.
SHERRI: Well, we have a unique product in that we took windows to the next level. So you already know that windows provide ventilation, you can see through them, they're a style element from the exterior and style on the inside. What we've done is incorporate window fashions into the window.
LESLIE: So in between the panes of glass.
SHERRI: In between the panes of glass ...
TOM: (overlapping voices) So there's no surface for the dust to land on.
SHERRI: ... but even further than that. Absolutely. Even more than that, you can have flexibility. So you're not stuck with whatever you choose to begin with. You can have ...
LESLIE: So how do you replace it?
SHERRI: Well, we have a panel that swings open, or a third piece of glass that swings open like a cabinet and you can snap out a shade and snap in a new one or snap out a panel - a decorative panel, like a stained glass panel - and put a different one in. So customers really have this convenience and flexibility and dust-free and cord-free system for their family.
LESLIE: Now, I think it's amazing you're saying that these window fashions between the panes of glass can reduce indoor airborne allergies by 200 percent?
SHERRI: Yep. And that's compared to having a conventional room size window fashion. If you think about it, as you go past any surface in your home, you're kicking up dust.
SHERRI: So whether you operate a shade or a blind or a drapery, even walking past it can stir things up. But imagine what happens when you start to operate it. Everything that's collected on that surface is moving, then, and going into the air.
LESLIE: So, then ...
SHERRI: And by having them under a piece of glass, you're not collecting that.
LESLIE: So you never have to clean them, practically.
SHERRI: That's right; you don't have to clean them.
TOM: It also occurs to me that it's in a lot safer place to put a window blind because we're always concerned about child strangulations from the cords that come off of blinds. So you basically have no cords to cause that issue.
SHERRI: That's right. This is a cord-free system. So you've got this huge palette of style choices, no cords - so you've got a safer system - you've got a cleaner system. You don't have to clean it and if you have any allergy or asthma issues, you're not going to have that with this product.
LESLIE: And it's not just ... it's not just blinds or grids. You have some choices that are ... will obscure view but are sort of decorative. What are those like?
SHERRI: Right. Well, they're beautiful and really the sky's the limit. So, right now, if you look at that category of windows and doors and you know ... obscure glass, there isn't a lot of options.
SHERRI: They're not always what people want. So we've, basically, given them anything they want. We've got 20 standard styles but if you sent in a picture of your child (laughing) and wanted it duplicated and hung in the window, we could do that.
TOM: That is so cool.
SHERRI: If you've got ... if you've got a stained glass pattern that you grew up with in your grandmother's home and you wanted to replicate that and put that in your window, we can do that.
LESLIE: Really? And what is the lead time for something like that? If the consumer decides they want that?
SHERRI: Our standard lead times. So seven days.
LESLIE: That's fast.
SHERRI: So ...
TOM: That's amazing. You know, we keep giving consumers more and more and more choices.
TOM: And it's actually somewhat intimidating to have all of these choices. It was easy when you had wood or metal blinds.
LESLIE: Sure. White or buff.
SHERRI: And you know what? Most people still land there. But what they want is to know that if they wanted whatever they wanted ... if they wanted sky's the limit, they can get it with us. We know from research that it takes this really big palette to bring them back to bring them back to a white blind.
TOM: That's right. (laughing)
SHERRI: You know? They really do want to know ...
TOM: You've got to wear them out. (laughing)
SHERRI: Yeah, it's like all the paint chips in a store, you know? You get this great big board of all the colors you could paint your room and most people still go to beige. (laughing) So ...
LESLIE: And so ... so if people want to go and see what kind of options these panels come in, do they go to www.pella.com or can they find them at a local retailer?
SHERRI: We sell through private distribution or through our independent distributions. So they can get them through our branches, our distributors, throughout the United States. Certainly, they can come to our booth if they were here. (laughing) But ...
TOM: So we hope that their contractors are there, right now.
SHERRI: You bet. And ...
TOM: So you could go right to the contractor and get those products.
SHERRI: And if you go into any of our Pella stores throughout the country, you would see them.
TOM: Awesome. Sherri Gillette from Pella. Thanks for stopping by The Money Pit.
SHERRI: Thanks a lot for having me.
TOM: This is The Money Pit Home Improvement Radio Show. We're broadcasting live from the 2006 International Builders' Show. We're having a great time.
LESLIE: I'm having a great time. Coming up, the privacy you want in your yard without any maintenance at all. We'll tell you about new fencing from the folks at Trex.
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TOM: Welcome back to this hour of The Money Pit Home Improvement Radio Show. I'm Tom Kraeutler.
LESLIE: And I'm Leslie Segrete.
TOM: Broadcasting from the 2006 International Builders' Show, courtesy of our friends at Grace Construction Products, makers of a fine set of materials that keeps the water out of your house.
LESLIE: Keeps it where it should be - outside. (laughing)
TOM: Well, speaking of cool construction products, are you on the fence about composite materials? That's the decking and the fencing that looks just like wood but lasts much longer and needs very little maintenance.
LESLIE: Well, get off that fence, already. Trex has a great new line of privacy fencing that's quick and easy to install. And joining us to talk about it is Tony 'Ferrante,' the Director of Marketing for the Trex company. How are you?
TONY: Good. How are you?
LESLIE: Great. So I know on 'While You Were Out' we use your products a lot. It's fantastic. It goes in great. I love that when you drive the screw into it, it self heals with the tap of a hammer.
TONY: It hides it.
LESLIE: I think it's fantastic. We're in love with it. So tell us about your fencing.
TONY: Great. Well, what we've done is we've taken all of the benefits of the composite decking and we've brought it to a privacy fencing line. We produce it in four colors that complement our decking line and it's truly a true privacy system that's got all the maintenance-free benefits of vinyl but with the look of wood. Today, consumers want maintenance-free products but they're just not fully satisfied with the white vinyl fence. So the Trex program fits really in that sweet spot of what consumers are looking for.
LESLIE: I have to tell you, my husband and I were in the Caribbean during Hurricane Charlie. And when we woke up the next morning and saw what devastation had happened, there were two docks that went out into the sea. One was wood; one was Trex. The wood deck (laughing) was like destroyed ...
TOM: What a great testimonial.
LESLIE: ... and the Trex deck was fantastic. Nothing had happened. People were standing out there looking at is. So it really does stand up to elements and any sort of conditions that might get thrown at it.
TOM: It makes perfect sense to now use this as a fencing material because good fences make great neighbors and a great fence is going to last forever and keep that relationship up and keep you from having to paint it and stain it. And that's just one of the hardest jobs in the world with all the cricks and the crevices in a fence. Now, what have you guys done to make this simple for installation?
TONY: It really is a very simple system in that it includes a 6 by 6 hollow post, there is an aluminum channel that spans the two posts for support and then there's a C-shaped picket that slides into the channel. And with 19 of those, you fill out a complete eight-foot section. You slide the top rail on top, you put your post caps on and you're done.
LESLIE: So it looks the same on both sides.
TONY: It's perfect. It's a great neighbor friendly fence in that it looks the same on both sides.
TOM: Because it always used to ...
LESLIE: So no one has to compromise.
TOM: And it always used to annoy me that when you bought a fence you would ...
LESLIE: You had the ugly side.
TOM: That's right. You were forced to put the ugly side facing your backyard. You have to put the nice side to your neighbor.
TONY: Right. That's no longer the case with Trex. It's beautiful on both sides.
LESLIE: So everybody's happy. And how about cost? How does this work in comparison to any sort of pressure treated lumber you might use?
TONY: Sure. Although there are variations across the country, depending on market conditions for wood or vinyl, it will compare equivalently to a premium priced vinyl or a premium cedar or redwood. So it's going to run, on a retail price, fully installed, about $35 a foot.
LESLIE: And is this something that you recommend for homeowners to do themselves? Or is it more like you purchase the product and a contractor will do it?
TONY: Either/or. It was really designed to be installed easily; so if the consumer felt like they could get an auger out and drill holes and put posts in, they certainly could do it themselves. And there's really nothing required and the hollow post is strong enough. It takes about 1,700 pounds to snap our posts ...
TONY: ... so it is extremely durable. The only exception to that would be when you're installing a gate. And if the gate would happen to be wider than four feet, you would need some support inside the posts; and that could be as simple as a 4 by 4 treated piece of lumber.
LESLIE: Which would fit right inside.
LESLIE: So you need some sort of a ballast to sort of control that weight.
TONY: That weight.
LESLIE: That's great. What a great product.
TOM: How many colors is it available in?
TONY: It's going to be available in four colors to start, which is our four core colors for Trex. That would be Winchester Gray, Saddle, Woodland Brown and Madeira. And that would allow you to really mix and match colors with your deck and with your fence.
TOM: Well, it sounds like a fabulous product. Can't wait to see it.
LESLIE: And where can people go for more information on the product?
TONY: For more information they could go out to www.trex.com. We've got a really cool microsite that launches from Trex that will give the user as much information as they probably would need on the product.
TOM: Great. Tony 'Ferrante' with Trex Decking and Fencing. Sounds like a great new product - Seclusions.
TOM: Do the fence once and that's it; you're done.
TONY: Absolutely. Twenty-five year warranty.
TOM: Thanks again. We'll be back with more, right after this.
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TOM: Coast to coast and floorboards to shingles, this is The Money Pit Home Improvement Radio Show. I'm Tom Kraeutler.
LESLIE: And I'm Leslie Segrete.
TOM: Broadcasting from the 2006 International Builders' Show, courtesy of our friends at Grace Construction Products. Hey, if you want to find out ways to help keep water out of your house, you've got to go check out this website - www.graceathome.com. Great consumer site to teach you how to keep the water where it needs to be.
LESLIE: Yeah, because your contractor isn't always going to recommend this product. So it's really important that you can just spend a little bit of money in the beginning phase; it'll save you a ton of money in the event something bad does happen. So educate yourself and make a smart decision.
TOM: Well, speaking of educating yourselves, you want to educate yourself on the best tools out there and ways, also, to keep those tools operating at peak efficiency. Don't you hate it when you're in the middle of a project, for example, and your drill bit goes dull?
LESLIE: I usually break them before they go dull.
TOM: You break them in half?
LESLIE: I'm a breaker.
TOM: Well, there's a way around it. It's a product called Drill Doctor; it's a drill bit sharpener. With us to talk about that is Kevin Blodgett. Hi, Kevin.
KEVIN: Hi, Tom and Leslie. How are you?
LESLIE: Hi. We're great. How about yourself? We're missing you here, this year.
KEVIN: (laughing) It's a little wet in Oregon, this year. We could use some of that protection.
LESLIE: Florida sunshine.
TOM: You're busy, up there, making a lot more Drill Doctors than you guys have ever pumped out before. You've got a whole new line this year. And the builders here are learning about Drill Doctor via this radio program. Let's talk about what the product is and what it does.
KEVIN: It's Drill Doctor; it's a drill bit sharpener. It'll sharpen twist bits, 3/32s up to